Darkest Before The Sean

Let’s talk about Sean Manaea for a moment as he went 5.0 IP, 1 ER, 6 Hits, 2 BBs, 4 Ks against the Phils. Save for an error in the first...

Let's talk about Sean Manaea for a moment as he went 5.0 IP, 1 ER, 6 Hits, 2 BBs, 4 Ks against the PhilsSave for an error in the first that hurt Manaea's longevity and WHIP, this is serviceable. I've lost some of my love for Manaea as the season has gone on and while I think he's still worth the start against Texas (in O.Co), it's just not the same. His slinging delivery is making it tough for him to spot his Fastball, which I should have been harder on earlier in the season as it's the same approach for why I've questioned Jake Arrieta's long-term command. I wonder where he'll fall in next year's ADP, maybe outside the Top 50 60. He's carrying a 4.56 ERA with an 8.00 K/9 and 3.00 BB/9 on an unpopular team, all signs that he will be ignored by casual owners everywhere. At that price, he may be worth it next year, though I can also see Manaea being a headache through the season. I haven't decided if I want to target him or not yet. We'll see.

Let’s see how every other SP did yesterday:

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Nick Pollack

Founder of Pitcher List. Creator of CSW, The List, and SP Roundup. Worked with MSG, FanGraphs, CBS Sports, and Washington Post. Former college pitcher, travel coach, pitching coach, and Brandeis alum. Wants every pitcher to be dope.

16 responses to “Darkest Before The Sean”

  1. Soggy Arm says:

    Going into finals week. Here are my potential streamers (obviously not the same for all; understanding Fister and Taillon are huge risks and waiting for tonight’s results):
    Tyler Anderson vs SD Thu
    Homer Bailey vs STL Thu
    Wacha @ PIT Fri
    Taillon vs STL Sat(?)
    Folty vs PHI Fri
    Newcomb vs PHI Sat
    Fister @CIN Sun

    What do you think? Looks like a Brave(s) weekend.

    • Nick Pollack says:

      Don’t like the Bailey stream at all.

      • Soggy Arm says:

        Just looked up his recent numbers. STL tore him up– 10 runs in early August. Has been relatively decent lately. One blip was 5 runs to the Shmets the game before last.

        • Soggy Arm says:

          Now Salazar is in the mix on Thu @LAA.

          • Paul Mitchell says:

            Salazar has shown a ton of upside…hasn’t pitched a lot of innings since coming off the dl. Is it possible they have him on a pitch count? I really want to use him over the other streamers although espn tells me newcomb is an option for today and could roll with him instead.

  2. Charles says:

    Hey Nick, would you start Fister @ Baltimore tonight? This is really doing my head in

  3. JB says:

    Would you start Taillon today? Championship week and the other guy is running Suter

    • Nick Pollack says:

      The Brewers are hot and Taillon has been shaky lately. I’d be conservative and sit him unless I felt I needed extra starts this week.

  4. The Kraken says:

    Stephenson and Clevinger sound similar to me.

    • Nick Pollack says:

      I think we’re at the point where we need to agree to disagree about Clev.

      Stephenson is more extreme pitcher than Clev in my mind and doesn’t have the depth of repertoire either.

      • The Kraken says:

        Fair enough. I don’t want to abuse the fact that you try to reply to most comments and I don’t think either of us will be changing our mind any time soon. I was really thinking about SP that walk a ton of guys and the only name I could come up with is Danny Salazar. I think if you make a list of guys with 40- control, you will have a list of guys that really don’t belong in the rotation unless they are going uncharacteristically well.

        • Nick Pollack says:

          True, and I don’t disagree with you on the impact of walking plenty of batters.

          I don’t agree that Clev is destined to be a 3.50 – 4.00 BB/9 guy.

          But yeah, let’s see what happens in 2018.

  5. Tony says:

    Would you start Giolito @Hou tomorrow under any circumstances?

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