Every Monday during the season, I will be releasing “The List” where I rank the current value of the Top 100 pitchers in fantasy baseball for the rest of the...
Every Monday during the season, I will be releasing "The List" where I rank the current value of the Top 100 pitchers in fantasy baseball for the rest of the season. Use these rankings to help understand what to expect from pitchers for 2017 and as a tool to gauge trade value in your fantasy leagues. Note: These rankings have been made with H2H 5x5 12-teamers in mind.
Let's see how the SP landscape has changed:
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Great stuff. The list gives me a key way to think about the relative valuations of these pitchers. I moved ERod + Belt to get Salazar last week (still convincing myself I came out on top despite his most recent poor performance). A few quick questions:
1) What are your realistic expectations from Price when he comes back? I drafted him way too high and am clinging on to some hope that he’s a beast upon return.
2) What are some good buy-low pitching targets for this week? I’ve got solid infielders who consistently sit on my bench and want to try and package them with a high sell on Gio before he starts to shit the bed (as a Nats fan I’m confident that he will). I was thinking Tanaka or Quintana.
3) I’ve got pretty solid pitching (Darvish / DeGrom / Stras / Salazar / Pomeranz / Gonzalez / Berrios, Price/Hernandez on DL), and was considering selling high on DeGrom or Stras while they’re still healthy. Do you think this would be a solid move given my pitching depth?
Thanks!
Hey Kyle, I addressed the first two in your previous comment…
I think I’d hold deGrom and Stras, honestly. Not much depth there and I don’t trust Salazar much.
Woops! Was typing this one up as you’d responded to the other one. Appreciate your advice.
I went in on Salazar because of his high K rates and low FIP. Did I overpay in ERod + Belt?
Also why did you drop Gio after a solid outing? Is this just a case of making room for others to move up?
Gio also had a poor outing as well in the past week, but as you said, yeah it’s more that I’m excited for the other arms instead.
It’s pretty even, I would have liked to have ridden the Eduardo train a little longer. Wouldn’t be incredibly shocking if Edu outperforms Salazar overall this year.
Ayyyy Perdomo!! Told you!
Ha! You can blame a ton of guys just being super meh for his chance at getting #100.
Good enough hitting that I should be able to stay in first with a good SP staff. Is Hendricks/Bundy/Duffy/Nola/Hill/Maeda/Berrios enough or deal for an available (but hurt) Kluber?
Maeda might be out of the rotation
Who knows with the Dodgers and Maeda just came off his longest career start.
Don’t trust Roberts’ lies.
I’d go get Kluber.
as I see it, you’ve got a lot of upper-mid tier pitching but no real studs. If I were you might deal for Kluber, but I’m not the expert here
Thanks all for the advice. I have plenty of hitting due to keepers and would be dealing Bellinger/Gleyber Torres in a keeper league for a cheap Kluber.
Cobb bounced from the list after his defense screwed him over? Not a completely awful start…
Moreso that I haven’t seen Cobb throw his classic Changeup and he’s still giving up plenty of hard contact.
Doesn’t have a clear path to upside while others are either more stable or are a better risk/reward type arm.
Cobb is Top 110, though.
Is this rotation “good enough”?
1. Kluber
2. deGrom
3. McCullers
4. Aaron Sanchez
5. Lackey
Bench: Berrios/McCarthy/Gausman
That works for me!
I’d consider streaming in place of Gausman.
I just moved Gausman for Samardzija. Good move?
Great move.
As always, you guys do amazing work. Love love love this site and the cast!
Do you think the Diamondback’s ball humidor will boost Ray’s HR/FB rate (currently 18.4%)?
I want to buy but I might have to give up Felix and AJ Griffin. Could get Wade Miley and Pomeranz along with Ray. What do you think?
Thanks man!
Ehhh, I don’t want to put too much stuck in the humidor and I don’t think it’s the answer to Ray’s struggles.
I’d hold Felix there, don’t care much for Griffin, though.
Love the list, started listening to the cast and love it. Awesome work man. But, even as a Yankees fan, how is Sale not #1 yet?!
Because Clayton Kershaw exists!
It’s been a great run from Sale, but we can’t expect 10+ Ks every time out there, while Kershaw is still the #1 pitcher on the planet.
Yeah maybe I’m just looking at the list as a season by season type list, versus an overall list…
I’m not sure what you mean by that…
I’m trying to say that we have a ton of data suggesting that Kershaw will still be the better pitcher overall than Sale. The List is all about ROS who I want to own.
Ah, gotcha. Misunderstood. Well for my fantasy team’s sake, I hope he proves otherwise! Keep up the awesome work
You keep talking about selling high on Bundy, but he keeps on rising. At this point I don’t know who I could be selling for higher up on the list!
Not sure if i would do Bundy for Arrieta, and he seems like one of the few attainable buy-lows up there.
Ha! As I mentioned in the notes, blame the guys around him for not being anything close to what they should be.
When I suggest trades, I often mean swapping a pitcher for a bat. It’s a lot easier to get proper value as the two players aren’t being compared so heavily.
I’m curious about Price as well – I scanned a few threads but can’t find your comment back to Kyle. Thoughts?
Here’s what I said about Price:
I think a Top 25 arm is what we should expect with the clear upside of being Top 15. Keep low expectations for now.
It’s hard to tell exactly what we’ll get from Price, but given the thinning of SP, he’s a valuable commodity.
How can you justify deGrom as the #4 best pitcher? ERA over 4 and has been very inconsistent…would take most of the pitchers listed at 5-15 over him….
Because he has a 2.88 xFIP, 12.39 K/9 and a .345 BABIP that is sure to fall.
It’s a definitive tier drop after Scherzer and I won’t put up much of a fight if you’d rather have Darvish or Carrasco or Strasburg. I’m a believer in deGrom and think he’ll pitch like a 2.75 – 3.00 ERA guy rest of the way with elite strikeouts and not holding the same injury risk that Darvish has.
Hey Nick,
Just curious what you think of my SP staff for a 14 team H2H:
DeGrom
Bundy
Nola
Lackey
Teheran
Berrios
Pomeranz
Lynn
Taillon
Can you tell I’m a big fan of your rankings? haha
What moves might you make with this line-up?
I think you’re pretty solid in a 12-teamer. I’d consider moving Teheran and seeing what the market is out there for him.
I appreciate the vote of confidence! Now if I could just get some healthy bats to go with them.
I actually just got Julio in multi-player trade where Gio Gonzalez was my SP going back, so I’m hoping Julio can turn things around.
Keep up the great work!
Duffffffffy!!
Do you think Carlos Martinez can lower his BB/9 and HR/9?
What is your take on Aaron Nola?