We’re back in the regular groove of Monday afternoon updates of The List! As always, make sure to read the notes as there are many changes that have good reasons behind them.
As always, these ranks are based on a 12-teamer, 5×5 roto format. Adjust accordingly to your situation.
Ranking Notes
- Next week will be the final week of the traditional “List” rankings as I’ll shift to a giant table showcasing future opponents and separating everyone in major tiers. I wish we had more time for the traditional List but that’s 2020 for ya.
- Also, look at that Fringe Pitchers table. It’s ENORMOUS. So many talented pitchers who are just not given the chance or have health against them. I just wish they could all be dope.
- Tier one is smaller this week as Max Scherzer imploded against the Marlins. You obviously shouldn’t be scared starting Scherzer, but Cole / Bieber / deGrom sure aren’t going to have a start like that.
- Walker Buehler is the one knocking at the door as he finally woke up this past week. He’s over 90 pitches now and looking like the Top 5 arm we expected in the pre-season. To consider him something else moving forward wouldn’t be wise.
- Tier two doesn’t have any major changes otherwise so onto Tier 3 where we get a good amount of arms rectifying their ranks from last week. Patrick Corbin’s velocity improved and I’m pulling him back up because of it. Chris Paddack’s fastball was as good as we’ve seen all season, and Lucas Giolito is having success with fastballs and changeups again. Still a little wary of the latter, but that’s alright.
- Blake Snell and Tyler Glasnow are both up to speed with their pitch counts now and while I initially had Glasnow ahead, Snell’s 15%+ SwStr was the tiebreaker to favor him as the premier arm in Tampa Bay.
- It pained me to drop Jack Flaherty so far down to Tier 4, but after lasting for just five outs and on a very short leash, I had to demote him. It’s going to take a moment before we get a chance at six frames again and we only have five weeks left!
- Carlos Carrasco and Frankie Montas each took significant hits and for obvious reasons. Montas had the worst week after dealing with a back issue, leading to poor command across his repertoire. Carrasco’s last three starts have also come with poor command, especially with his slider and changeup. Here’s to hoping both can turn it around in a heartbeat.
- I feel I should also mention Jose Berrios and his climb back to Tier 4. I need to take it a little slow as it was just one outing, but his curveball was on and if that sticks, so will his success.
- German Marquez had the opposite – his slider disappeared completely. It’s the pitch that vaulted him in 2018 and earlier this season and I’m crossing my fingers it was just one of those days.
- Tier 5 is where you’ll find the latest contenders for Spider-Man as these Tobys are doing their thing and we love it. Don’t expect a ton of strikeouts, but appreciate the Wins and Ratios and keep starting them religiously.
- Yes, that includes Dustin May. If people are still treating him as if he’s on the verge of being an ace, deal him. His approach just isn’t made for strikeouts.
- Tier 6 is the final tier of arms that I’m thrilled to hold in all leagues. I’m a fan of Jordan Montgomery’s improvement in his rain-shortened start against Boston and heavily believe in a strong stretch ahead. Pablo Lopez has found his groove with fastball command, changeup whiffs, and cutters for strikes, and I’d love to see it continue. Then there’s Corbin Burnes who has a great schedule ahead, is stretched out, and has all the tools he needs for some legit strikeout games.
- It may be too high for Sixto Sanchez and Triston McKenzie given their questionable playing time ahead, but their skill set speaks of a spot in Tier 4. They are both getting at least one more turn in the rotation and the chance they could stick for longer warrants their Top 50 spots.
- Tier 7 and Tier 8 is where it gets tricky. To understand T7, I need to explain Tier 8 first. That’s where we have all the Cherry Bomb players, better yet, they could be labeled as a PEAS as they have the potential to breakout in a big way, but are too risky to chase right now.
- That includes Luke Weaver even after Sunday’s start as his fastball isn’t quite as good as it needs to be. Spencer Turnbull and Garrett Richards are also closer than the rest to achieving their greatness, but there’s also Matthew Boyd who finally had success, but did so on the back of his changeup and not his signature slider. Weird.
- Okay, so back to Tier 7, I currently feel more confident starting these names than the risky upside plays in Tier 8. Dylan Cease and Elieser Hernandez also have the Cherry Bomb label, but they have been less volatile as of late and make for better options. Same goes for Framber Valdez who I don’t believe in long term as his sinker is questionable, but I can’t deny his string of success any longer.
- You may be confused about Brad Keller and Dakota Hudson hanging around at 58 and 59. Keller’s new curveball is causing fits that have helped him hold a 0.00 ERA through three starts. Hudson’s slider and curveball have improved from last year and he could find himself in the Tier 5 of Spider-Man arms soon enough. They’re safer than Tier 8 and the boring Tobys of Tier 10 and 11.
- Before #10 is Tier 9, where I made a mini-grouping of other volatile arms, but ones I like a little less and can mostly be considered as stashes. Tarik Skubal is an arm I am excited about long-term, but he needs more time to polish his stuff and get properly stretched out. Josh Lindblom isn’t there with his velocity, nor his secondary stuff to get the whiffs yet. And you’re on your own dealing with Jon Gray.
- I’m very cautious with Rich Hill as well. He’s been sitting at just 88 mph in his first two starts, has already hit the IL a second time, and isn’t stretched out to go the 5/6 innings you want. Be careful.
- Alright, Tier 10 for real now. We have some fun names here starting with Kyle Freeland, who has proven himself worthy of your consideration despite the rough Colorado schedule. There’s also Merrill Kelly demanding the same attention, though I don’t think his success lasts for long. Tyler Mahle is much of the same energy, though, as he has a start slated for this weekend and could be a good short term option.
- I had to give dramatic drops to Griffin Canning, Mike Minor, and Ross Stripling. Canning’s command has struggled lately and he’s a ticking clock given how PRP injections are usually not long-term solutions for elbow trouble. Minor’s fastball is still coming with depressed velocity as his changeup isn’t what it was last year, and Stripling hasn’t hit an 8% SwStr across any of his last five starts. These arms are not trending in the right direction.
- The final two tiers are two sets of boring arms that could help as streamers. Tier 11 begins with Alex Young, who is now stretched out for the Diamondbacks and has enough in his repertoire to make you a satisfied fantasy manager. Justus Sheffield follows fresh off a start with the best changeup he’s had in the majors. It may not stick, but it’s an exciting moment.
- While we don’t know the fate of Touki Toussaint after his week relief appearance, we do know Zach Davies will continue to get chances in the rotation as long as his changeup is locked in. So far so good there and we can give him a Vargas Rule label, just like with Adam Wainwright, who has shown few signs of slowing down despite the team’s long layover.
- And lastly, there’s Tier 12. I think JT Brubaker deserves a little more attention with a solid sinker and well-spotted slider, though he’s only to be used against weaker lineups. There’s also Kwang-Hyun Kim joining The List as he could be a decent Toby for the Cardinals as he continues to establish himself as a starter.
- We have a quartet of Giants arms joining The List this week between Logan Webb, Trevor Cahill, Tyler Anderson, and Johnny Cueto. Each present something different – Webb has a good fastball and could get enough from his secondary stuff to be a decent streamer, Anderson just threw a CG and could have another in him, Cahill just had another excellent CSW evening with phenomenal changeups, and Cueto somehow makes it work every so often.
Pitcher | Reason |
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Justin Verlander | IL for weeks with an elbow injury. Would be Top 5. |
Stephen Strasburg | IL with hand injury. Would be Top 20. |
Corey Kluber | IL with a shoulder injury. Would be Top 25. |
Alex Wood | IL with shoulder inflammation. Would be Top 80. |
AJ Puk | IL with shoulder inflammation. Would be Top 50. |
Madison Bumgarner | IL with back injury. Would be Top 80. |
Joe Musgrove | IL with triceps injury. Would be Top 80. |
Mitch Keller | IL with side discomfort. Would be Top 70. |
Homer Bailey | IL with biceps tendonitis. Would be Top 70. |
Carlos Rodon | IL with shoulder injury. Would be Top 90. |
Tyler Chatwood | IL with back injury. Would be Top 70. |
James Paxton | IL with forearm tightness. Would be Top 40 |
David Peterson | IL with shoulder stiffness. Would be Top 80. |
Matt Shoemaker | IL with shoulder inflammation. Would be Top 80. |
Nate Pearson | IL with elbow discomfort. Would be Top 70. |
Jake Odorizzi | IL with bruised ribs. Would be Top 70. |
Danny Duffy | Delayed with forearm tightness. Would be Top 90. |
Yonny Chirinos | Out for season with TJS. |
Mike Soroka | Out for season with Achilles tear. |
Shohei Ohtani | Out for season as SP with forearm injury. |
Charlie Morton | IL with shoulder inflammation. Would be Top 20. |
Sandy Alcantara | COVID-IL, could return this week. Would be Top 50. |
Carlos Martinez | COVID-IL, could return this week. Would be Top 70. |
Caleb Smith | COVID-IL, could return this week. Would be Top 70. |
Mike Clevinger | Optioned as punishment for breaking COVID curfew. Would be Top 10. |
Zach Plesac | Optioned as punishment for breaking COVID curfew. Would be Top 30 |
Brendan McKay | Unclear if the Rays will use and how he would perform if called up. |
Mike Foltynewicz | DFA’d by Braves, diminished velocity and unclear how he rebounds. |
Jordan Lyles | Close, not quite in rhythm yet. |
Cole Hamels | He’s hurt. Again. |
Reynaldo Lopez | Too volatile and too soon back from the IL |
Jake Arrieta | One of the final cuts. Just not enough production. |
Austin Voth | Diminished velocity and few whiffs = too much risk right now. |
Michael Fulmer | Not getting enough innings and doesn’t look great |
Steven Matz | Delegated to bullpen |
Freddy Peralta | Unclear role in Milwaukee + not showcasing ceiling |
Josh James | Delegated to bullpen |
Joey Lucchesi | Optioned to alternate training site. |
Tony Gonsolin | Optioned to alternate training site. Could return soon, Top 70. |
Dane Dunning | Optioned to alternate training site. Would be Top 70. |
MacKenzie Gore | Stash option, will add when in MLB – ~Top 70 for now |
Ian Anderson | Stash option, will add when in MLB -~ Top 70 for now |
Tanner Roark | Backend Toby, one of the last cut |
Jon Lester | Backend Toby, one of the last cut |
Anibal Sanchez | Backend Toby, one of the last cut |
Wade LeBlanc | Backend Toby, one of the last cut |
Kris Bubic | Backend Toby, one of the last cut |
Alec Mills | Backend Toby, one of the last cut |
Martin Perez | Backend Toby, one of the last cut |
JA Happ | Backend Toby for Wins, one of the last cut |
All right, now that the notes are at the top and you understand where I’m coming from, let’s get to The List:
Rank | Pitcher | Badges | Change |
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1 | Gerrit ColeT1 | Aces Gonna Ace Strikeout Upside Quality Starts | - |
2 | Shane Bieber | Aces Gonna Ace Strikeout Upside Quality Starts | - |
3 | Jacob deGrom | Aces Gonna Ace Strikeout Upside Quality Starts | - |
4 | Walker BuehlerT2 | Aces Gonna Ace Strikeout Upside Quality Starts | +6 |
5 | Max Scherzer | Aces Gonna Ace Strikeout Upside Quality Starts | -1 |
6 | Sonny Gray | Aces Gonna Ace Strikeout Upside Quality Starts | -1 |
7 | Trevor Bauer | Aces Gonna Ace Strikeout Upside Quality Starts Cherry Bomb | +2 |
8 | Aaron Nola | Aces Gonna Ace Strikeout Upside Quality Starts | -1 |
9 | Yu Darvish | Aces Gonna Ace Strikeout Upside Quality Starts | +4 |
10 | Clayton Kershaw | Aces Gonna Ace Strikeout Upside Quality Starts | +2 |
11 | Lance Lynn | Aces Gonna Ace Strikeout Upside Quality Starts | - |
12 | Luis Castillo | Aces Gonna Ace Strikeout Upside Quality Starts | -6 |
13 | Kenta Maeda | Aces Gonna Ace Strikeout Upside Quality Starts | +2 |
14 | Zac Gallen | Aces Gonna Ace Strikeout Upside Quality Starts | +2 |
15 | Blake SnellT3 | Aces Gonna Ace Injury Risk Strikeout Upside | +8 |
16 | Dinelson Lamet | Aces Gonna Ace Strikeout Upside | +4 |
17 | Aaron Civale | Aces Gonna Ace Strikeout Upside Quality Starts Ratio Focused Streaming Option | +4 |
18 | Jesús Luzardo | Ace Potential Strikeout Upside | +6 |
19 | Tyler Glasnow | Aces Gonna Ace Strikeout Upside Low Ips | -2 |
20 | Chris Paddack | Aces Gonna Ace Strikeout Upside Quality Starts | +6 |
21 | Patrick Corbin | Aces Gonna Ace Strikeout Upside Quality Starts | +10 |
22 | Brandon Woodruff | Ace Potential Injury Risk Strikeout Upside Quality Starts | -3 |
23 | Julio Urías | Ace Potential Strikeout Upside Quality Starts | +4 |
24 | Lucas Giolito | Aces Gonna Ace Strikeout Upside Quality Starts | +6 |
25 | Max Fried | Ace Potential Strikeout Upside | +3 |
26 | Jack FlahertyT4 | Aces Gonna Ace Strikeout Upside Quality Starts | -12 |
27 | Zack Wheeler | Strikeout Upside Quality Starts | +5 |
28 | Zack Greinke | Aces Gonna Ace Quality Starts | -3 |
29 | Dylan Bundy | Ace Potential Strikeout Upside Cherry Bomb | - |
30 | Carlos Carrasco | Aces Gonna Ace Strikeout Upside Quality Starts | -22 |
31 | Germán Márquez | Ace Potential Strikeout Upside Cherry Bomb | -9 |
32 | Frankie Montas | Ace Potential Strikeout Upside Quality Starts | -14 |
33 | José Berríos | Ace Potential Strikeout Upside Quality Starts | +6 |
34 | Lance McCullers Jr. | Ace Potential Injury Risk Strikeout Upside Low Ips | -1 |
35 | Hyun Jin RyuT5 | Ace Potential Injury Risk Quality Starts Ratio Focused | +2 |
36 | Kyle Hendricks | Ace Potential Quality Starts Ratio Focused | -2 |
37 | Dustin May | Low Ips Ratio Focused | -2 |
38 | Randy Dobnak | Quality Starts Toby Ratio Focused | +9 |
39 | Dallas Keuchel | Toby Ratio Focused | +1 |
40 | Jordan MontgomeryT6 | Ace Potential Strikeout Upside Streaming Option Stash Option | +4 |
41 | Pablo López | Ace Potential Strikeout Upside Cherry Bomb Streaming Option | +8 |
42 | Casey Mize | Ace Potential Strikeout Upside Stash Option | +14 |
43 | Sixto Sánchez | Ace Potential Strikeout Upside | +UR |
44 | Corbin Burnes | Ace Potential Strikeout Upside Low Ips Cherry Bomb Streaming Option | +17 |
45 | Triston McKenzie | Ace Potential Strikeout Upside | +UR |
46 | Kevin Gausman | Ace Potential Quality Starts Toby Ratio Focused Streaming Option | +5 |
47 | Masahiro Tanaka | Injury Risk Strikeout Upside Cherry Bomb Ratio Focused | -6 |
48 | Chris Bassitt | Strikeout Upside Toby Ratio Focused Streaming Option | -6 |
49 | Dylan CeaseT7 | Ace Potential Strikeout Upside Low Ips Cherry Bomb | +22 |
50 | Elieser Hernández | Strikeout Upside Low Ips Cherry Bomb Streaming Option | +20 |
51 | Adrian Houser | Strikeout Upside Streaming Option | -3 |
52 | Ryan Yarbrough | Toby Ratio Focused | +1 |
53 | Anthony DeSclafani | Strikeout Upside Toby | +14 |
54 | Sean Manaea | Injury Risk Ratio Focused | +14 |
55 | Cristian Javier | Strikeout Upside Low Ips Cherry Bomb | +18 |
56 | Yusei Kikuchi | Ace Potential Strikeout Upside Cherry Bomb Toby Streaming Option | +1 |
57 | Brad Keller | Toby Streaming Option | +37 |
58 | Dakota Hudson | Toby Streaming Option | +21 |
59 | Framber Valdez | Strikeout Upside Cherry Bomb Streaming Option | +33 |
60 | Chad Kuhl | Ace Potential Injury Risk Strikeout Upside Low Ips Cherry Bomb | -2 |
61 | Luke WeaverT8 | Ace Potential Strikeout Upside Quality Starts Cherry Bomb Ratio Focused | +14 |
62 | Garrett Richards | Ace Potential Injury Risk Strikeout Upside Cherry Bomb Streaming Option | -16 |
63 | Spencer Turnbull | Ace Potential Strikeout Upside Cherry Bomb Streaming Option | -25 |
64 | Andrew Heaney | Ace Potential Injury Risk Strikeout Upside Cherry Bomb | -14 |
65 | Matthew Boyd | Ace Potential Strikeout Upside Cherry Bomb | +20 |
66 | Robbie Ray | Ace Potential Injury Risk Strikeout Upside Low Ips Cherry Bomb | -2 |
67 | John Means | Ace Potential Strikeout Upside Quality Starts | -2 |
68 | Tarik SkubalT9 | Ace Potential Strikeout Upside Low Ips Cherry Bomb | -5 |
69 | Josh Lindblom | Ace Potential Injury Risk Quality Starts Cherry Bomb Toby Ratio Focused | -17 |
70 | Rich Hill | Injury Risk Strikeout Upside Low Ips Cherry Bomb | +UR |
71 | Jon Gray | Strikeout Upside Cherry Bomb | +7 |
72 | Kyle FreelandT10 | Cherry Bomb Toby Ratio Focused Streaming Option | -3 |
73 | Tyler Mahle | Strikeout Upside Streaming Option | +UR |
74 | Nathan Eovaldi | Strikeout Upside Toby Streaming Option | +9 |
75 | Merrill Kelly | Toby Streaming Option | -1 |
76 | Griffin Canning | Ace Potential Injury Risk Cherry Bomb | -21 |
77 | Mike Minor | Ace Potential Quality Starts Ratio Focused | -17 |
78 | Ross Stripling | Ace Potential Strikeout Upside Cherry Bomb | -42 |
79 | Spencer Howard | Ace Potential Strikeout Upside Stash Option | +5 |
80 | Alex YoungT11 | Toby Streaming Option | +15 |
81 | Justus Sheffield | Strikeout Upside Cherry Bomb Streaming Option | +18 |
82 | Alex Cobb | Toby Streaming Option | +8 |
83 | Taijuan Walker | Toby Streaming Option | +13 |
84 | Brady Singer | Strikeout Upside Quality Starts Ratio Focused Streaming Option | -2 |
85 | Zach Davies | Toby Streaming Option | +12 |
86 | Touki Toussaint | Ace Potential Strikeout Upside Low Ips Cherry Bomb | -27 |
87 | Adam Wainwright | Toby Streaming Option | +UR |
88 | JT BrubakerT12 | Toby Streaming Option | +UR |
89 | Kwang Hyun Kim | Toby Streaming Option | +UR |
90 | Ryan Castellani | Strikeout Upside Cherry Bomb Streaming Option | -14 |
91 | Kyle Gibson | Strikeout Upside Low Ips Cherry Bomb | -14 |
92 | Asher Wojciechowski | Strikeout Upside Cherry Bomb Streaming Option | +1 |
93 | Zach Eflin | Toby Streaming Option | -6 |
94 | Brandon Bielak | Ratio Focused Streaming Option | -14 |
95 | Logan Webb | Toby Streaming Option | +UR |
96 | Trevor Cahill | Toby Streaming Option | +UR |
97 | Tyler Anderson | Toby Streaming Option | +UR |
98 | Johnny Cueto | Toby Ratio Focused Streaming Option | +UR |
99 | Patrick Sandoval | Strikeout Upside Cherry Bomb Streaming Option | -8 |
100 | Marco Gonzales | Toby Streaming Option | - |
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If Pineda is starting when eligible to return August 31, where would he rank?
Thanks for this every week! Any thought on Urquidy ROS?
Thanks for everything you and the staff do, Nick! Do you think you need to change the badges on Lindblom, or are you still holding out hope? At this point, I think the “Ratio Focused” and “Quality Starts” badge can be removed.
Would you drop Lugo for Corbim Burnes?
Hard to believe it but we are close to the halfway point of the season and the last “traditional list” of the year. Great job with “The List”. I guess your reward is even more work trying figure who is going to throw on what days and what the match ups will be. Really like your tier 6 options. This is where I would look for potential long term adds. I am a little more confident that Montas at #34 will right the ship, hopefully in his next outing.
I think Sandy Alcantara will throw this week and I am really not expecting much short term coming back from COVID and a lighter pitch count in his first few outings. I noticed you note him as a top 50 arm which I completely concur. What do you think his ceiling will be this year once he is stretched out? I am planning on stashing him for a playoff run.
Very sad about Pearson. Some talk that the Blue Jays will shut him down for the year. At this point, I think they should 100% be cautious with him. I wonder if this will influence the Padres not to show us Gore this year.
I’m doing a side by side of Luzardo and another guy…
This guy’s got 3.99 ERA v. 3.67; 0.99 WHIP v. 1.37, and 34Ks v 27, and the same 2 W’s as Luzardo…yet he’s only Top 90? Hint…he’s had to face the Twins 3 times, and Luzardo none.
Why no love for Duffy?
I had Duffy in the Top 75 until I saw he’s enduring forearm issues. I put him in the Fringe pitchers!
Nick,
Is it just me or has the AL become a waste zone….. past top 15, just feels weak.
Where would Schmidt and Urquidy each rank if they slotted into their teams respective rotations?
I’m not a big fan of either right now.
We just don’t know enough about Urquidy’s workload and polish. I prefer his ability over what I’ve seen of Schmidt, who doesn’t seem to carry a high ceiling from what I’ve watched/read.
I’ll know better when I get to watch them in the bigs in 2020!
What do we think Clevinger will be like when he comes back? Will he need stretching out? Will he be a good candidate to deliver QSs? I’ve been offered him for Hosmer and really don’t know what to haha
What about the Clev-dog?
Hi! Any update on this week’s The List??
Hey Ryan! I pushed it back a day because of the trade deadline. Coming out around 4pm EST with the livestream on Twitter at 1pm EST.
That’s what I thought! Thanks man… your list is my go-to for pitching decisions!
Will there be an SP100 update for this week? I’m interested in where Clevinger will fall now. Thanks!